There was a JW sister in Glasgow a number of years ago who was jailed for refusing to swear an oath on the Bible. Her fine was then paid by an anonymous person* and she was released.
*generally believed to have been one of the Greenlees family.
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My highlights from GB member Jackson's ARC testimony
by The Fall Guy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwv8yntfto.
nice to review how one of the "faithful snakes" slithered when he was captive to being questioned.. at 40 seconds, he is asked to swear an oath - and he swears on the bible.
obviously jesus' words slipped his mind: matthew 5:34-37 - "however, i say to you: do not swear at all, neither by heaven.....nor by earth,.... just let your word ‘yes’ mean yes, your ‘no,’ no, for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.
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My highlights from GB member Jackson's ARC testimony
by The Fall Guy inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erwv8yntfto.
nice to review how one of the "faithful snakes" slithered when he was captive to being questioned.. at 40 seconds, he is asked to swear an oath - and he swears on the bible.
obviously jesus' words slipped his mind: matthew 5:34-37 - "however, i say to you: do not swear at all, neither by heaven.....nor by earth,.... just let your word ‘yes’ mean yes, your ‘no,’ no, for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erWV8YnTFto
Nice to review how one of the "faithful snakes" slithered when he was captive to being questioned.
At 40 seconds, he is asked to swear an oath - and he swears on the Bible. Obviously Jesus' words slipped his mind: Matthew 5:34-37 - "However, I say to you: Do not swear at all, neither by heaven.....nor by earth,.... Just let your word ‘Yes’ mean yes, your ‘No,’ no, for what goes beyond these is from the wicked one."
At 9 minutes 50 seconds, he reveals a new light - that he and the rest of the governing body are G.O.D.'s = Guardians Of Doctrine.
At 11 minutes 36 seconds, he says that the GB will allow "someone" to inform the GB regarding a need to change doctrine or policy.
At 15 minutes 34 seconds, Jackson's forked-tongue really shows. In an effort to compare the alleged 1st century governing body with him and his pals in Warwick, he reads Acts 6:3,4 - "So, brothers, select for yourselves seven reputable men from among you, full of spirit and wisdom, that we may appoint them over this necessary matter; but we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.”
He then misquotes the verse by saying, "So verse 4 describes the role of the [present-day] governing body as we see it, to devote ourselves to prayer and the word of God..."
The scripture says the apostles were devoted to the ministry of the word - not the word of God. Mr. Jackass couldn't possibly commit the GB to doing as much field ministry as publishers and pioneers are expected to do, could he?
At 20 minutes 34 seconds he is asked, "Do you [the GB] see yourselves as Jehovah God's spokespeople on earth?" He replies, "Ah, that I think would seem to be quite presumptuous, to say that we [the GB] are the only spokesperson that God is using.
At 25 minutes 20 seconds he says that the GB, Branch Committees, and JW have a primary allegiance to Jehovah God, and that a Branch Committee can tell the GB if "something doesn't work" or is "not appropriate" so that it can be "adjusted accordingly." In other words Jacko, JW's have the right to reject anything the GB says which is not scripturally provable.
At 27 minutes 40 seconds he says a "central group" [GB] has to decide on the interpretation of scriptures.
After 49 minutes the judge asked him these 4 questions - "Does your church accept corporal punishment of children? Do you accept corporal punishment? Do you accept corporal punishment? Do prohibit it?"
Jackson tried his damndest not to answer 'Yes' or 'No' but the judge had him on the ropes. Jacko's squirming was visible.
At 1 hour 45 minutes & 26 seconds: At various times during his examination, sanctimonious Jackson quoted scriptures in an attempt to justify the JW mentality. Each time he did so, he patronizingly told Mr. Stewart, "It's on page...........," despite the fact that Mr. Stewart apparently had no trouble finding most of the Bible books.
Mr. Stewart then rubs Jacko's nose in it when he tells Jackson that he wants him to look at Deuteronomy 22:23-27 in his Bible - and then says to Jackson, "It's on page 304." Priceless!!!
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New witness a bit lost
by purelove20 innot sure it's ok to post here about that.
im sorry if i'm wrong but i'm just trying to find my way and meet people that could help me become a good witness.
i recently discovered my faith as a witness.
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PURELOVE20 - You have been exposed to the "love" of JW's and that is why you want to join them.
I have sent you a Private Message. See the little green envelope at the top of the page.
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Simon's Forum Is More Than Just a Forum!
by Atlantis infriends:.
simon's forum is much more than just a forum where we come to expose the watchtower.
it is a place that simon wanted people to be able to come to, to receive help, support, or find a compassionate listener.. this forum has exposed the watchtower more times than any forum on the net.
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The Fall Guy
Amen, Atlantis.
May mutual respect and human empathy for fellow members be shown even more so in 2019 - and let lurkers and PIMO's see that there are genuine and sincere people here.
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Any drivers here recognise THIS scenario?
by The Fall Guy ina bbc news report about a "hit & run" victim.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-46762571.
the "victim's" comments are laughable:.
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A BBC News report about a "hit & run" victim. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-46762571
The "victim's" comments are laughable:
"I know I'm partly to blame, (only partly?) and also you never know what idiots are going to be driving around."
(as a driver, I know what idiots are walking around! A woman chatting on her 'phone stepped off the pavement/side-walk and almost pushed her baby's pram into my car )
"The driver who fled the scene "needs to have a bit of a wake-up call".
(yes dear, they need to be even more vigilant for oblivious idiots like you!)
"A police spokeswoman said: "It is believed the woman was knocked unconscious after being in
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Hidden history of the Watchtower religion
by TerryWalstrom inthe deeper you dig--the less impressive jw’s become!___________________you may think you know the men who are vitally important to the birth of the religion--but chances are good you’ve been kept in the dark.. _____________.
did you know?the 1st case heard by the supreme court of the united states concerning the watchtower society involved a director (an officer) of the watchtower, william franklyn hudgings.. a brief description of hudgings and his character.hudgings was an attorney, quack doctor, self-identified ‘scientist’, a pro-zionist, and religious enthusiast who over the years held various director and officer positions in the watchtower society, and the affiliated people's pulpit association and international bible students association.
at the time of this particular case, william hudgings acknowledged being the corporate secretary of the people's pulpit association and acknowledged that his daily duties included the administrative charge of printing of the watchtower magazine, the bible student's monthly, the kingdom news, and other watchtower publications.. (hudgings was also re-elected to the watchtower society board of directors in january 1919.
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The Fall Guy
Excellent information Terry.
A book in one of your links is entitled, "New Light From the Great Pyramid," published in 1893. "https://issuu.com/grupodeestudosfernandodeogum/docs/new_light_from_the_great_pyramid
I wonder if old Charlatan Taze Russell read this book and based some of his beliefs on what he found.
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Same Talks Again and Again
by Akid48 inhey i’m back i know it’s been a long time since i’ve posted on the form but a lot things have been happening so i haven’t had much time to post.. ive been 14 for awhile now makes me happy because i’m getting closer to being able to get a job and work my way out of this.. i have meetings on saturdays now which is horrible because i rather have it on sunday because it’s already a sad day because i got to go to school the next day.three of our public talks have had different brothers saying the same thing talking about the signs of the end days.the thing that gets me is when they always try and bank on the earthquake part i mean i’m really into science so i already knew a lot about plate tectonics sea floor spreading etc but you get taught this in school.with plates always moving divergent convergent transform etc there will be earthquakes it’s the effect of plates moving against or rubing on each or going back into the mantle(subduction zones) it happens.so when there’s a report in japan of a lot of earthquakes it must be the end times!no japan is located on four plates it’s going to experience big earthquakes.. i don’t know that just gets under my skins when they try and say it’s the end days because of the earth having natural things happen like plate tectonics is something that’s been happening recently no we might have gotten our hands on the technology to spot earthquakes recently but this has been happening for millions of years.. speaking of years i hope you all have a great 2019 and i’ll definitely post more of my thoughts this year..
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The Fall Guy
Hi Akid, I hope your knowledge about TTATT increases in 2019 and that your exit is as painless as it should be.
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Saying hello again
by EdenOne injust saying i’m still alive and greeting everyone, veterans and newcomers to this forum.. 2018 was a year with a lot of turmoil in my life; me and my wife separated, then reunited months later, and spent the second half of the year healing the emotional wounds from that episode.
that, along with a record year in terms of my business meant that choices had to be made regarding my time, and i decided to focus on my marriage instead of other endeavours.
it seemed to have paid off.
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The Fall Guy
Welcome back Eden. It's good to hear that you and your wife have not allowed the org's indoctrination to split you up. Have an even better year in 2019.
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Elders: Which legal office?
by betterdaze inthere are two legal offices listed on the jw.org website.. united stateswatchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.office of the general counsel100 watchtower drivepatterson ny 12563-9204united states+1 [email protected].
world headquartersjehovah’s witnesses, office of the general counsel1 kings drivetuxedo park ny 10987-5500united states+1 [email protected].
to which location does one report child abusers and their enablers?
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The Fall Guy
Don't be silly betterdaze.
Elders claim to have clergy-penitent privilege, so ethically & legally, they can't share any confessional information with a third-party such as a "legal department." Or can they? Maybe just with their wives.
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Hey Governing Body, if you're not too busy.....
by The Fall Guy in.....can you clarify one of your doctrines for me?.
re chap.
27 p. 178 par.
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Dearyweather - this is the org's get-out-of-jail-free card:
Later in this vision, we are informed that Satan expresses his rage toward the woman by persecuting her seed. (Revelation 12:17) What happens to the woman’s seed here on earth may be regarded as happening to the woman herself.
The cult is notorious for using double-speak to cover up their corruptions of what is actually said in scriptures. Revelation 12:6 explicitly says, "And the woman fled into the wilderness..."
It does not say - or infer - "And the woman's seed/earthly children/remnant fled into the wilderness..."
They should change their denominational name to Janus Witnesses - two-faced!